Painted Nylon and Moisture Absorption

One of the articles on this website that garners the most attention is Understanding Nylon and Moisture. Recently, a reader posted an interesting question that I had not thought of. The reader asked if painting a nylon part would stop the nylon from absorbing moisture and thus prevent the change in properties inherent in the moisture absorption process.

I had never thought of this before and a google search revealed no answers to this question. I have a large amount of nylon processing and technical information from DuPont and this subject is not discussed.

So, I set about running my own experiment.

I thought that the best way to test this would be to perform tensile strength testing on test bars molded from Nylon. The tensile strength of nylon drops significantly as the material absorbs moisture from the atmosphere. The tensile strength is acting as a stand-in for the moisture content because measuring the moisture content directly in parts is difficult.

I molded test specimens from an unfilled Nylon 6. I placed 3 specimens in a 4 mil plastic resealable bag right after molding. This bag was then put inside another bag. Another 3 specimens were not sealed up after molding, and yet another set of specimens was painted.

I spray painted the specimens with Krylon Fusion spray paint that is made for plastic. The can says that you can use it on any type of plastic. I coated the bars very well right after molding. I got a few runs because I wanted to get a thick coating on them.

I ended up putting the moisture conditioned bars and the painted bars in a container with water in the bottom to speed up the moisture conditioning.

I let the test specimens’ condition for 24 hours and set about testing them for tensile strength. I ran the tensiles on an Instron machine at 2 inches per minute cross-head speed. Here are the results:

Dry as molded specimens – 10,900 psi (75.4 Mpa)

Moisture Conditioned unpainted specimens – 8,660 psi (59.7 Mpa)

Painted and moisture conditioned specimens – 9100 psi (62.8 Mpa)

It does not appear that the paint coating protected the specimens from moisture absorption although it may have slowed down the moisture absorption. The moisture conditioned bars show a 20.6% reduction in tensile strength but the painted bars show a 16.5% reduction.

My theory is that the paint is permeable to moisture and allows some moisture to penetrate the nylon through the paint.

It is also possible that the coating itself is artificially adding tensile strength to the test specimens but it is a pretty thin coating. The paint added 0.0035 inches to the thickness of the test specimens on average. This additional thickness was accounted for in the calculations. If the additional 440 psi of tensile strength was the strength of the paint coating that would mean that the paint tensile strength is 251,000 psi which is unlikely.

Based on this study, I would suggest that the idea of painting nylon in order to keep it from absorbing moisture is plausible. There may be some paints that would be much more impermeable to moisture than what I used. I am not a paint expert by any means. It might also be possible to achieve this by over-molding another material over a nylon part or coating a nylon part with some type of ceramic coating like Ceracote.

The key would be to coat these parts quickly after molding. Nylon absorbs moisture so fast that if you waited for 12 hours to coat the parts, it would be too late. You could however dry the parts and then coat them.

The results of this experiment were not as open and shut as I had hoped but I hope that it gives you a little insight.

The Cycolac Research Vehicle

While doing some research, I came across an article about this car with a body that was thermoformed from ABS in 1960’s. Several prototypes were built by Borg Warner to promote their new plastic, ABS. This is the best article I could find that explained the history of these cars.

A Condensed Version of the CRV/Piranha Story

The Piranha was a kit car that was inspired by the Cycolac Research Vehicle. Here are some photos of a surviving Piranha

The Piranha Kit Car

Here is another article that has a lot of good photos

Melt Blown Polypropylene

I received a request for a polypropylene the other day. The customer was looking for a grade that could be used for making “melt blown” fabric. I was not familiar with this process. You can see it in action in the above video. The polypropylene grades that are used for this have melt flows in the 1200-1500 g/10 minutes range (yes, you read that right).

The process uses an ordinary extrusion line but a high pressure gas is injected into the die which aerosol-izes the melted material and sprays it onto a roller.

I have been in this business for a while but this process was new to me.

Polycarbonate and UV

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Polycarbonate is a very versatile material that is used for all sorts of applications including many applications that require ultraviolet light resistance. Most grades are not suitable for these applications unless they are modified with a UV stabilizer additive. It is also important to ensure that you have the right UV additive for your application.

Continue reading “Polycarbonate and UV”

Condensation and Polypropylene

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A common and frustrating problem with polypropylene materials and especially filled polypropylene materials is surface moisture on the pellets. Polypropylene is not hygroscopic so it does not absorb moisture out of the atmosphere but if the pellets have moisture on the surface, it will cause the same problems as you would experience running wet hygroscopic material like nylon. You will experience splay and loss of physical properties.

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News Digest 7/16/2018

KRLD News Room

Weekly Resin Report: No fireworks in spot resin trading during fourth of July week

The Plastics Exchange market update 7/6/2018

Prices flat for PE, PS, PVC; up for PP & PET

Ascend declares force majeure on nylon 66

Kraiburg introduces new TPEs aimed at automotive interior parts

Carolina Color acquires Chroma Corp

BASF introduces new hydrolysis resistant polyesters

Evonik starts process to carve out PMMA and MMA business

BASF considering building chemicals complex in China (behind paywall)

US polypropylene imports slip in May

 

 

 

Nylon 66 Supplies Are Tight And Expected To Remain So

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If you have not already seen price increases on nylon 66, you will soon. Nylon 66 is in tight supply and prices are increasing anywhere from $.10-$.50/lb depending on the grade.

There have been seven force-majeures declared on nylon 66 in 2018. The shortage is being caused by a shortage of adiponitrile (ADN) which is an ingredient used to make nylon 66.

Believe it or not, some of the reason for the shortage stems from Hurricane Harvey which hit the Texas gulf coast in August of last year. There are only 4 plants in the world that make ADN. Two of the plants are on the Texas gulf coast and they both went down before the hurricane hit. These plants don’t just turn back on with a switch, it takes a lot of time to get them started back up and up to full production.

The other factor is increasing demand for nylon 66. This is partly because of the improved US economy and partly because of light-weighting efforts being carried out by the auto industry which is causing a lot of parts that were previously make of metal to be switched to lighter engineering thermoplastics like nylon.

At some point, reduced supply and increased demand clash and unfortunately, we have passed that point.

It will likely take several years for more supply to come on line, in the meantime expect higher prices and longer lead times.

One option that some processors might explore is switching to nylon 6. Nylon 6 has reduced heat resistance but has higher impact and better surface appearance. Nylon 6 supplies are not great either but it is not as tight as 66. I have not seen any nylon 6 price increases this year as of yet. If a lot of people switch their nylon 66 applications to 6, we could see supply become very tight on 6 as well.

News Digest 5/29/2018

Long Row of Typewriters

Weekly Resin Report: Transactions rebound as industry returns from NPE2018

The Plastics Exchange market update 5/18/2018

Kraiburg introduces new line of TPE’s for outdoor industrial applications

Studies question the efficacy of biodegradable plastics

SABIC debuts new soft touch polypropylene grades aimed at automotive interiors

Lyondellbasell rumored to be mulling offer for controlling stake in Braskem

April was a calm month for resin pricing

M. Holland to distribute 3-D printing filament for Owens Corning

Total, Borealis and Nova Chemicals finalize major US joint venture